https://wiki.wolfire.com/api.php?action=feedcontributions&user=Steppenlaeufer&feedformat=atomWolfire Games Wiki - User contributions [en]2024-03-29T14:35:32ZUser contributionsMediaWiki 1.30.0https://wiki.wolfire.com/index.php?title=Talk:Wolfire_Wiki_Editing_Standards&diff=3390Talk:Wolfire Wiki Editing Standards2011-06-23T17:56:11Z<p>Steppenlaeufer: </p>
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<div>''Weapons (anything lower than this point should be in a weapons page not a sub category. If you have a crucial detail for that weapon and there is no page, don't think you have to make an entirely new page. Add your words to the file's own page for example look at the staff. )''<br />
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So who is to decide if there should be a weapon page or not?<br />
I don't agree with the last sentence because of two reasons:<br />
* 1. look at every single (game related) Wiki that is mentioned in [[Wolfire Wiki Editing Standards#Useful Examples]] - Every weapon has its own page there:<br />
** http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Weapons<br />
** http://www.wowwiki.com/Weapons<br />
** http://marvel.wikia.com/Category:Weapons<br />
** http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Weapons<br />
** http://bioshock.wikia.com/wiki/BioShock_Weapons<br />
** http://witcher.wikia.com/wiki/Category:The_Witcher_2_weapons (not on the list but also a very good wiki)<br />
The reason why its better to have a page for every weapon is because its simply easier to manage them on their own page then to track every single occurence on collection pages like [[Equipment_and_Weapons]] or [[Dogs#Weaponry]] (which I have combined previously because they contained duplicates of the same information)<br />
* 2. Image pages should be used to describe the image itself and only give a short description about its content. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Image_page<br />
--[[User:Steppenlaeufer|Steppenlaeufer]] 08:13, 22 June 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Ok, but in my defense, what I'm doing is pretty much like bioware's doing (we could argue that the staff (I found an unused picture only about staves)): <br />
*http://bioshock.wikia.com/wiki/File%3ASpecialCD.jpg<br />
*http://bioshock.wikia.com/wiki/Category:BioShock_Weapons. <br />
But COD also does a cross between:<br />
* http://medalofhonor.wikia.com/wiki/File:C96_Mauser.PNG (they do what you say, but the files are named exactly what the weapon is ie we need to make sure that rabbit catcher a ,b ,c naming convention is used if we add no description)<br />
* http://medalofhonor.wikia.com/wiki/M1917_revolver<br />
* http://medalofhonor.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Revolvers<br />
* http://medalofhonor.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Handguns<br />
* http://medalofhonor.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Weapons<br />
Either way, after we decide what to do with the weapons category, we need templates like:<br />
* http://bioshock.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Weapons<br />
* http://medalofhonor.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Gunbox<br />
* http://medalofhonor.wikia.com/wiki/Template:MOHA_Weapons<br />
Thanks very much for helping with the editing standards. You're right about "So who is to decide if there should be a weapon page or not?". The only way to decide is debate and argue for your most liked example and then decide which one most people think is best. I'm always happy to go through one by one and edit my mistakes for the better.<br />
<br />
--[[User:Conner36|Conner36]] 13:33, 22 June 2011 (UTC)<br />
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I agree that pictures should have some sort of meta-data as shown in [http://bioshock.wikia.com/wiki/File%3ASpecialCD.jpg], its easier to find page-related pictures if they have a good description.<br />
I didn't mean to leave image pages blank like shown in [http://medalofhonor.wikia.com/wiki/File:C96_Mauser.PNG], but to only provide picture related content on the picture page and not article/page content.<br />
In my opinion most people using a wiki system (including myself) don't read through the picture-page of a posted picture.<br />
<br />
A naming convention for pictures could be useful but is pretty hard to establish for pictures of something that can't be described with one word, a good description in the metadata is probably superior.<br />
<br />
I also agree on the template for the weapons category (if we decide to keep the category), this would be very useful and also nice looking.<br />
<br />
Thanks for your quick reply, greetings from Austria --[[User:Steppenlaeufer|Steppenlaeufer]] 15:06, 22 June 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Maybe we should add subcategories from this list (from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_melee_weapons):<br />
* Blunt weapons<br />
* Chain weapons<br />
* Spears<br />
* Pole weapons<br />
* Knives<br />
* Swords and fencing<br />
* Axes<br />
* Glove Weapons<br />
* Improvised Weapons<br />
* Miscellaneous weapons<br />
<br />
Which idea do you like, no page for "spears" but a template page (saves on editing for the main weapons page) for each specific spear? or is it better to have a page for each weapon and the weapons template instead of a main weapons page?<br />
<br />
I'm more for a weapons template and no main page. <br />
<br />
Either way we need to come up with a system that can handle the future weapons. The tricky thing is making a template or page to handle different races and groups within the races with their own specific weapons in their own categories. All while being easy to navigate. Things may get ugly pretty fast. <br />
<br />
--[[User:Conner36|Conner36]] 15:39, 22 June 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Weapons template without main page sounds nice. Less duplicates :)<br />
<br />
I'm still searching for a nice template for multiple races/factions. I found one solution but I wont say its the best: [http://cnc.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Tiberian_Dawn_Arsenals]<br />
If you aren't familiar with CnC titles: it was pretty common that the base units of every faction where the same. Their solution was to create a template per faction/race and show both templates on <br />
units owned by both factions. Examples: The minigunner[http://cnc.wikia.com/wiki/Minigunner_%28Tiberian_Dawn%29] can be bought/produced from both factions, while the flamethrower[http://cnc.wikia.com/wiki/Flamethrower_infantry_%28Tiberian_Dawn%29] can only be produced if you are NOD.<br />
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--[[User:Steppenlaeufer|Steppenlaeufer]] 18:29, 22 June 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Those are cool templates. I like the http://cnc.wikia.com/wiki/Template:UnitBox very much. I think that I will be suited very well for characters.<br />
<br />
Ok, I think I found a good template solution to merge with the unit boxes using:<br />
* http://wiki.teamliquid.net:80/starcraft/Portal:StarCraft<br />
* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:IM_clients<br />
* http://wiki.teamliquid.net:80/starcraft/Buildings<br />
<br />
We can use the templates in the starcraft wiki to separate by a race per tab (cat, dog, rabbit, rat , wolf) and have the contents by factions. If we can use the 'Template:IM_clients' or like the starcraft buildings to show weapons by race in a weapons tab that would be cool. <br />
<br />
Come to think of it I like the tabs idea. Do you think it's worth it to use it in more places?<br />
<br />
--[[User:Conner36|Conner36]] 22:21, 22 June 2011 (UTC)<br />
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{{Box-header}}<br />
{{Tab1}}<br />
{{Tab2}}<br />
{{Tabs}}<br />
{{TabsBottom}}<br />
{{TabsHeader}}<br />
{{TabsTop}}<br />
--[[User:Conner36| Conner36]] 14:40, 23 June 2011 (UTC)<br />
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[[Category: Weapons]]<br />
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These tabs look really quite useful. We could also use them (for instance) to destinquish between the different Wolfire games, but there are definitly many uses for it.<br />
If it doesnt work out, we can still remove it afterwards.<br />
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Btw. - is it just on my operating system or is the navigation menu kind of broken for long articles? (i have to scroll all the way down to the bottom to reach it. In contrast the Wolfire logo is still left top corner.)<br />
--[[User:Steppenlaeufer|Steppenlaeufer]] 17:53, 23 June 2011 (UTC)</div>Steppenlaeuferhttps://wiki.wolfire.com/index.php?title=Talk:Wolfire_Wiki_Editing_Standards&diff=3389Talk:Wolfire Wiki Editing Standards2011-06-23T17:53:26Z<p>Steppenlaeufer: </p>
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<div>''Weapons (anything lower than this point should be in a weapons page not a sub category. If you have a crucial detail for that weapon and there is no page, don't think you have to make an entirely new page. Add your words to the file's own page for example look at the staff. )''<br />
<br />
So who is to decide if there should be a weapon page or not?<br />
I don't agree with the last sentence because of two reasons:<br />
* 1. look at every single (game related) Wiki that is mentioned in [[Wolfire Wiki Editing Standards#Useful Examples]] - Every weapon has its own page there:<br />
** http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Weapons<br />
** http://www.wowwiki.com/Weapons<br />
** http://marvel.wikia.com/Category:Weapons<br />
** http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Weapons<br />
** http://bioshock.wikia.com/wiki/BioShock_Weapons<br />
** http://witcher.wikia.com/wiki/Category:The_Witcher_2_weapons (not on the list but also a very good wiki)<br />
The reason why its better to have a page for every weapon is because its simply easier to manage them on their own page then to track every single occurence on collection pages like [[Equipment_and_Weapons]] or [[Dogs#Weaponry]] (which I have combined previously because they contained duplicates of the same information)<br />
* 2. Image pages should be used to describe the image itself and only give a short description about its content. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Image_page<br />
--[[User:Steppenlaeufer|Steppenlaeufer]] 08:13, 22 June 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Ok, but in my defense, what I'm doing is pretty much like bioware's doing (we could argue that the staff (I found an unused picture only about staves)): <br />
*http://bioshock.wikia.com/wiki/File%3ASpecialCD.jpg<br />
*http://bioshock.wikia.com/wiki/Category:BioShock_Weapons. <br />
But COD also does a cross between:<br />
* http://medalofhonor.wikia.com/wiki/File:C96_Mauser.PNG (they do what you say, but the files are named exactly what the weapon is ie we need to make sure that rabbit catcher a ,b ,c naming convention is used if we add no description)<br />
* http://medalofhonor.wikia.com/wiki/M1917_revolver<br />
* http://medalofhonor.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Revolvers<br />
* http://medalofhonor.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Handguns<br />
* http://medalofhonor.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Weapons<br />
Either way, after we decide what to do with the weapons category, we need templates like:<br />
* http://bioshock.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Weapons<br />
* http://medalofhonor.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Gunbox<br />
* http://medalofhonor.wikia.com/wiki/Template:MOHA_Weapons<br />
Thanks very much for helping with the editing standards. You're right about "So who is to decide if there should be a weapon page or not?". The only way to decide is debate and argue for your most liked example and then decide which one most people think is best. I'm always happy to go through one by one and edit my mistakes for the better.<br />
<br />
--[[User:Conner36|Conner36]] 13:33, 22 June 2011 (UTC)<br />
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<br />
I agree that pictures should have some sort of meta-data as shown in [http://bioshock.wikia.com/wiki/File%3ASpecialCD.jpg], its easier to find page-related pictures if they have a good description.<br />
I didn't mean to leave image pages blank like shown in [http://medalofhonor.wikia.com/wiki/File:C96_Mauser.PNG], but to only provide picture related content on the picture page and not article/page content.<br />
In my opinion most people using a wiki system (including myself) don't read through the picture-page of a posted picture.<br />
<br />
A naming convention for pictures could be useful but is pretty hard to establish for pictures of something that can't be described with one word, a good description in the metadata is probably superior.<br />
<br />
I also agree on the template for the weapons category (if we decide to keep the category), this would be very useful and also nice looking.<br />
<br />
Thanks for your quick reply, greetings from Austria --[[User:Steppenlaeufer|Steppenlaeufer]] 15:06, 22 June 2011 (UTC)<br />
<br />
----<br />
<br />
Maybe we should add subcategories from this list (from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_melee_weapons):<br />
* Blunt weapons<br />
* Chain weapons<br />
* Spears<br />
* Pole weapons<br />
* Knives<br />
* Swords and fencing<br />
* Axes<br />
* Glove Weapons<br />
* Improvised Weapons<br />
* Miscellaneous weapons<br />
<br />
Which idea do you like, no page for "spears" but a template page (saves on editing for the main weapons page) for each specific spear? or is it better to have a page for each weapon and the weapons template instead of a main weapons page?<br />
<br />
I'm more for a weapons template and no main page. <br />
<br />
Either way we need to come up with a system that can handle the future weapons. The tricky thing is making a template or page to handle different races and groups within the races with their own specific weapons in their own categories. All while being easy to navigate. Things may get ugly pretty fast. <br />
<br />
--[[User:Conner36|Conner36]] 15:39, 22 June 2011 (UTC)<br />
<br />
----<br />
<br />
Weapons template without main page sounds nice. Less duplicates :)<br />
<br />
I'm still searching for a nice template for multiple races/factions. I found one solution but I wont say its the best: [http://cnc.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Tiberian_Dawn_Arsenals]<br />
If you aren't familiar with CnC titles: it was pretty common that the base units of every faction where the same. Their solution was to create a template per faction/race and show both templates on <br />
units owned by both factions. Examples: The minigunner[http://cnc.wikia.com/wiki/Minigunner_%28Tiberian_Dawn%29] can be bought/produced from both factions, while the flamethrower[http://cnc.wikia.com/wiki/Flamethrower_infantry_%28Tiberian_Dawn%29] can only be produced if you are NOD.<br />
<br />
--[[User:Steppenlaeufer|Steppenlaeufer]] 18:29, 22 June 2011 (UTC)<br />
<br />
----<br />
<br />
Those are cool templates. I like the http://cnc.wikia.com/wiki/Template:UnitBox very much. I think that I will be suited very well for characters.<br />
<br />
Ok, I think I found a good template solution to merge with the unit boxes using:<br />
* http://wiki.teamliquid.net:80/starcraft/Portal:StarCraft<br />
* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:IM_clients<br />
* http://wiki.teamliquid.net:80/starcraft/Buildings<br />
<br />
We can use the templates in the starcraft wiki to separate by a race per tab (cat, dog, rabbit, rat , wolf) and have the contents by factions. If we can use the 'Template:IM_clients' or like the starcraft buildings to show weapons by race in a weapons tab that would be cool. <br />
<br />
Come to think of it I like the tabs idea. Do you think it's worth it to use it in more places?<br />
<br />
--[[User:Conner36|Conner36]] 22:21, 22 June 2011 (UTC)<br />
<br />
{{Box-header}}<br />
{{Tab1}}<br />
{{Tab2}}<br />
{{Tabs}}<br />
{{TabsBottom}}<br />
{{TabsHeader}}<br />
{{TabsTop}}<br />
--[[User:Conner36| Conner36]] 14:40, 23 June 2011 (UTC)<br />
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<br />
[[Category: Weapons]]<br />
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<br />
These tabs look really quite useful. We could also use them (for instance) to destinquish between the different Wolfire games, but there are definitly many uses for it.<br />
If it doesnt work out, we can still remove it afterwards.<br />
--[[User:Steppenlaeufer|Steppenlaeufer]] 17:53, 23 June 2011 (UTC)</div>Steppenlaeuferhttps://wiki.wolfire.com/index.php?title=Talk:Wolfire_Wiki_Editing_Standards&diff=3315Talk:Wolfire Wiki Editing Standards2011-06-22T18:33:23Z<p>Steppenlaeufer: </p>
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<div>''Weapons (anything lower than this point should be in a weapons page not a sub category. If you have a crucial detail for that weapon and there is no page, don't think you have to make an entirely new page. Add your words to the file's own page for example look at the staff. )''<br />
<br />
So who is to decide if there should be a weapon page or not?<br />
I don't agree with the last sentence because of two reasons:<br />
* 1. look at every single (game related) Wiki that is mentioned in [[Wolfire Wiki Editing Standards#Useful Examples]] - Every weapon has its own page there:<br />
** http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Weapons<br />
** http://www.wowwiki.com/Weapons<br />
** http://marvel.wikia.com/Category:Weapons<br />
** http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Weapons<br />
** http://bioshock.wikia.com/wiki/BioShock_Weapons<br />
** http://witcher.wikia.com/wiki/Category:The_Witcher_2_weapons (not on the list but also a very good wiki)<br />
The reason why its better to have a page for every weapon is because its simply easier to manage them on their own page then to track every single occurence on collection pages like [[Equipment_and_Weapons]] or [[Dogs#Weaponry]] (which I have combined previously because they contained duplicates of the same information)<br />
* 2. Image pages should be used to describe the image itself and only give a short description about its content. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Image_page<br />
--[[User:Steppenlaeufer|Steppenlaeufer]] 08:13, 22 June 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Ok, but in my defense, what I'm doing is pretty much like bioware's doing (we could argue that the staff (I found an unused picture only about staves)): <br />
*http://bioshock.wikia.com/wiki/File%3ASpecialCD.jpg<br />
*http://bioshock.wikia.com/wiki/Category:BioShock_Weapons. <br />
But COD also does a cross between:<br />
* http://medalofhonor.wikia.com/wiki/File:C96_Mauser.PNG (they do what you say, but the files are named exactly what the weapon is ie we need to make sure that rabbit catcher a ,b ,c naming convention is used if we add no description)<br />
* http://medalofhonor.wikia.com/wiki/M1917_revolver<br />
* http://medalofhonor.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Revolvers<br />
* http://medalofhonor.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Handguns<br />
* http://medalofhonor.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Weapons<br />
Either way, after we decide what to do with the weapons category, we need templates like:<br />
* http://bioshock.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Weapons<br />
* http://medalofhonor.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Gunbox<br />
* http://medalofhonor.wikia.com/wiki/Template:MOHA_Weapons<br />
Thanks very much for helping with the editing standards. You're right about "So who is to decide if there should be a weapon page or not?". The only way to decide is debate and argue for your most liked example and then decide which one most people think is best. I'm always happy to go through one by one and edit my mistakes for the better.<br />
<br />
--[[User:Conner36|Conner36]] 13:33, 22 June 2011 (UTC)<br />
<br />
----<br />
<br />
I agree that pictures should have some sort of meta-data as shown in [http://bioshock.wikia.com/wiki/File%3ASpecialCD.jpg], its easier to find page-related pictures if they have a good description.<br />
I didn't mean to leave image pages blank like shown in [http://medalofhonor.wikia.com/wiki/File:C96_Mauser.PNG], but to only provide picture related content on the picture page and not article/page content.<br />
In my opinion most people using a wiki system (including myself) don't read through the picture-page of a posted picture.<br />
<br />
A naming convention for pictures could be useful but is pretty hard to establish for pictures of something that can't be described with one word, a good description in the metadata is probably superior.<br />
<br />
I also agree on the template for the weapons category (if we decide to keep the category), this would be very useful and also nice looking.<br />
<br />
Thanks for your quick reply, greetings from Austria --[[User:Steppenlaeufer|Steppenlaeufer]] 15:06, 22 June 2011 (UTC)<br />
<br />
----<br />
<br />
Maybe we should add subcategories from this list (from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_melee_weapons):<br />
* Blunt weapons<br />
* Chain weapons<br />
* Spears<br />
* Pole weapons<br />
* Knives<br />
* Swords and fencing<br />
* Axes<br />
* Glove Weapons<br />
* Improvised Weapons<br />
* Miscellaneous weapons<br />
<br />
Which idea do you like, no page for "spears" but a template page (saves on editing for the main weapons page) for each specific spear? or is it better to have a page for each weapon and the weapons template instead of a main weapons page?<br />
<br />
I'm more for a weapons template and no main page. <br />
<br />
Either way we need to come up with a system that can handle the future weapons. The tricky thing is making a template or page to handle different races and groups within the races with their own specific weapons in their own categories. All while being easy to navigate. Things may get ugly pretty fast. <br />
<br />
--[[User:Conner36|Conner36]] 15:39, 22 June 2011 (UTC)<br />
<br />
----<br />
<br />
Weapons template without main page sounds nice. Less duplicates :)<br />
<br />
I'm still searching for a nice template for multiple races/factions. I found one solution but I wont say its the best: [http://cnc.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Tiberian_Dawn_Arsenals]<br />
If you aren't familiar with CnC titles: it was pretty common that the base units of every faction where the same. Their solution was to create a template per faction/race and show both templates on <br />
units owned by both factions. Examples: The minigunner[http://cnc.wikia.com/wiki/Minigunner_%28Tiberian_Dawn%29] can be bought/produced from both factions, while the flamethrower[http://cnc.wikia.com/wiki/Flamethrower_infantry_%28Tiberian_Dawn%29] can only be produced if you are NOD.<br />
<br />
--[[User:Steppenlaeufer|Steppenlaeufer]] 18:29, 22 June 2011 (UTC)<br />
<br />
[[Category: Weapons]]</div>Steppenlaeuferhttps://wiki.wolfire.com/index.php?title=Talk:Wolfire_Wiki_Editing_Standards&diff=3314Talk:Wolfire Wiki Editing Standards2011-06-22T18:29:19Z<p>Steppenlaeufer: </p>
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<div>''Weapons (anything lower than this point should be in a weapons page not a sub category. If you have a crucial detail for that weapon and there is no page, don't think you have to make an entirely new page. Add your words to the file's own page for example look at the staff. )''<br />
<br />
So who is to decide if there should be a weapon page or not?<br />
I don't agree with the last sentence because of two reasons:<br />
* 1. look at every single (game related) Wiki that is mentioned in [[Wolfire Wiki Editing Standards#Useful Examples]] - Every weapon has its own page there:<br />
** http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Weapons<br />
** http://www.wowwiki.com/Weapons<br />
** http://marvel.wikia.com/Category:Weapons<br />
** http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Weapons<br />
** http://bioshock.wikia.com/wiki/BioShock_Weapons<br />
** http://witcher.wikia.com/wiki/Category:The_Witcher_2_weapons (not on the list but also a very good wiki)<br />
The reason why its better to have a page for every weapon is because its simply easier to manage them on their own page then to track every single occurence on collection pages like [[Equipment_and_Weapons]] or [[Dogs#Weaponry]] (which I have combined previously because they contained duplicates of the same information)<br />
* 2. Image pages should be used to describe the image itself and only give a short description about its content. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Image_page<br />
--[[User:Steppenlaeufer|Steppenlaeufer]] 08:13, 22 June 2011 (UTC)<br />
<br />
----<br />
<br />
Ok, but in my defense, what I'm doing is pretty much like bioware's doing (we could argue that the staff (I found an unused picture only about staves)): <br />
*http://bioshock.wikia.com/wiki/File%3ASpecialCD.jpg<br />
*http://bioshock.wikia.com/wiki/Category:BioShock_Weapons. <br />
But COD also does a cross between:<br />
* http://medalofhonor.wikia.com/wiki/File:C96_Mauser.PNG (they do what you say, but the files are named exactly what the weapon is ie we need to make sure that rabbit catcher a ,b ,c naming convention is used if we add no description)<br />
* http://medalofhonor.wikia.com/wiki/M1917_revolver<br />
* http://medalofhonor.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Revolvers<br />
* http://medalofhonor.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Handguns<br />
* http://medalofhonor.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Weapons<br />
Either way, after we decide what to do with the weapons category, we need templates like:<br />
* http://bioshock.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Weapons<br />
* http://medalofhonor.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Gunbox<br />
* http://medalofhonor.wikia.com/wiki/Template:MOHA_Weapons<br />
Thanks very much for helping with the editing standards. You're right about "So who is to decide if there should be a weapon page or not?". The only way to decide is debate and argue for your most liked example and then decide which one most people think is best. I'm always happy to go through one by one and edit my mistakes for the better.<br />
<br />
--[[User:Conner36|Conner36]] 13:33, 22 June 2011 (UTC)<br />
<br />
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I agree that pictures should have some sort of meta-data as shown in [http://bioshock.wikia.com/wiki/File%3ASpecialCD.jpg], its easier to find page-related pictures if they have a good description.<br />
I didn't mean to leave image pages blank like shown in [http://medalofhonor.wikia.com/wiki/File:C96_Mauser.PNG], but to only provide picture related content on the picture page and not article/page content.<br />
In my opinion most people using a wiki system (including myself) don't read through the picture-page of a posted picture.<br />
<br />
A naming convention for pictures could be useful but is pretty hard to establish for pictures of something that can't be described with one word, a good description in the metadata is probably superior.<br />
<br />
I also agree on the template for the weapons category (if we decide to keep the category), this would be very useful and also nice looking.<br />
<br />
Thanks for your quick reply, greetings from Austria --[[User:Steppenlaeufer|Steppenlaeufer]] 15:06, 22 June 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Maybe we should add subcategories from this list (from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_melee_weapons):<br />
* Blunt weapons<br />
* Chain weapons<br />
* Spears<br />
* Pole weapons<br />
* Knives<br />
* Swords and fencing<br />
* Axes<br />
* Glove Weapons<br />
* Improvised Weapons<br />
* Miscellaneous weapons<br />
<br />
Which idea do you like, no page for "spears" but a template page (saves on editing for the main weapons page) for each specific spear? or is it better to have a page for each weapon and the weapons template instead of a main weapons page?<br />
<br />
I'm more for a weapons template and no main page. <br />
<br />
Either way we need to come up with a system that can handle the future weapons. The tricky thing is making a template or page to handle different races and groups within the races with their own specific weapons in their own categories. All while being easy to navigate. Things may get ugly pretty fast. <br />
<br />
--[[User:Conner36|Conner36]] 15:39, 22 June 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Weapons template without main page sounds nice. Less duplicates :)<br />
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I'm still searching for a nice template for multiple races/factions. I found one solution but I wont say its the best: [http://cnc.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Tiberian_Dawn_Arsenals]<br />
If you aren't familiar with CnC titles: it was pretty common that the base units of every faction where the same. Their solution was to create a template per faction/race and show both templates on <br />
units owned by both factions.<br />
<br />
--[[User:Steppenlaeufer|Steppenlaeufer]] 18:29, 22 June 2011 (UTC)<br />
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[[Category: Weapons]]</div>Steppenlaeuferhttps://wiki.wolfire.com/index.php?title=Talk:Wolfire_Wiki_Editing_Standards&diff=3309Talk:Wolfire Wiki Editing Standards2011-06-22T15:06:30Z<p>Steppenlaeufer: </p>
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<div>''Weapons (anything lower than this point should be in a weapons page not a sub category. If you have a crucial detail for that weapon and there is no page, don't think you have to make an entirely new page. Add your words to the file's own page for example look at the staff. )''<br />
<br />
So who is to decide if there should be a weapon page or not?<br />
I don't agree with the last sentence because of two reasons:<br />
* 1. look at every single (game related) Wiki that is mentioned in [[Wolfire Wiki Editing Standards#Useful Examples]] - Every weapon has its own page there:<br />
** http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Weapons<br />
** http://www.wowwiki.com/Weapons<br />
** http://marvel.wikia.com/Category:Weapons<br />
** http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Weapons<br />
** http://bioshock.wikia.com/wiki/BioShock_Weapons<br />
** http://witcher.wikia.com/wiki/Category:The_Witcher_2_weapons (not on the list but also a very good wiki)<br />
The reason why its better to have a page for every weapon is because its simply easier to manage them on their own page then to track every single occurence on collection pages like [[Equipment_and_Weapons]] or [[Dogs#Weaponry]] (which I have combined previously because they contained duplicates of the same information)<br />
* 2. Image pages should be used to describe the image itself and only give a short description about its content. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Image_page<br />
--[[User:Steppenlaeufer|Steppenlaeufer]] 08:13, 22 June 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Ok, but in my defense, what I'm doing is pretty much like bioware's doing (we could argue that the staff (I found an unused picture only about staves)): <br />
*http://bioshock.wikia.com/wiki/File%3ASpecialCD.jpg<br />
*http://bioshock.wikia.com/wiki/Category:BioShock_Weapons. <br />
But COD also does a cross between:<br />
* http://medalofhonor.wikia.com/wiki/File:C96_Mauser.PNG (they do what you say, but the files are named exactly what the weapon is ie we need to make sure that rabbit catcher a ,b ,c naming convention is used if we add no description)<br />
* http://medalofhonor.wikia.com/wiki/M1917_revolver<br />
* http://medalofhonor.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Revolvers<br />
* http://medalofhonor.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Handguns<br />
* http://medalofhonor.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Weapons<br />
Either way, after we decide what to do with the weapons category, we need templates like:<br />
* http://bioshock.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Weapons<br />
* http://medalofhonor.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Gunbox<br />
* http://medalofhonor.wikia.com/wiki/Template:MOHA_Weapons<br />
Thanks very much for helping with the editing standards. You're right about "So who is to decide if there should be a weapon page or not?". The only way to decide is debate and argue for your most liked example and then decide which one most people think is best. I'm always happy to go through one by one and edit my mistakes for the better.<br />
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--[[User:Conner36|Conner36]] 13:33, 22 June 2011 (UTC)<br />
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I agree that pictures should have some sort of meta-data as shown in [http://bioshock.wikia.com/wiki/File%3ASpecialCD.jpg], its easier to find page-related pictures if they have a good description.<br />
I didn't mean to leave image pages blank like shown in [http://medalofhonor.wikia.com/wiki/File:C96_Mauser.PNG], but to only provide picture related content on the picture page and not article/page content.<br />
In my opinion most people using a wiki system (including myself) don't read through the picture-page of a posted picture.<br />
<br />
A naming convention for pictures could be useful but is pretty hard to establish for pictures of something that can't be described with one word, a good description in the metadata is probably superior.<br />
<br />
I also agree on the template for the weapons category (if we decide to keep the category), this would be very useful and also nice looking.<br />
<br />
Thanks for your quick reply, greetings from Austria --[[User:Steppenlaeufer|Steppenlaeufer]] 15:06, 22 June 2011 (UTC)</div>Steppenlaeuferhttps://wiki.wolfire.com/index.php?title=Talk:Wolfire_Wiki_Editing_Standards&diff=3293Talk:Wolfire Wiki Editing Standards2011-06-22T08:13:04Z<p>Steppenlaeufer: </p>
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<div>''Weapons (anything lower than this point should be in a weapons page not a sub category. If you have a crucial detail for that weapon and there is no page, don't think you have to make an entirely new page. Add your words to the file's own page for example look at the staff. )''<br />
<br />
So who is to decide if there should be a weapon page or not?<br />
I don't agree with the last sentence because of two reasons:<br />
* 1. look at every single (game related) Wiki that is mentioned in [[Wolfire Wiki Editing Standards#Useful Examples]] - Every weapon has its own page there:<br />
** http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Weapons<br />
** http://www.wowwiki.com/Weapons<br />
** http://marvel.wikia.com/Category:Weapons<br />
** http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Weapons<br />
** http://bioshock.wikia.com/wiki/BioShock_Weapons<br />
** http://witcher.wikia.com/wiki/Category:The_Witcher_2_weapons (not on the list but also a very good wiki)<br />
The reason why its better to have a page for every weapon is because its simply easier to manage them on their own page then to track every single occurence on collection pages like [[Equipment_and_Weapons]] or [[Dogs#Weaponry]] (which I have combined previously because they contained duplicates of the same information)<br />
* 2. Image pages should be used to describe the image itself and only give a short description about its content. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Image_page<br />
--[[User:Steppenlaeufer|Steppenlaeufer]] 08:13, 22 June 2011 (UTC)</div>Steppenlaeuferhttps://wiki.wolfire.com/index.php?title=Equipment_and_Weapons&diff=3128Equipment and Weapons2011-06-21T10:55:38Z<p>Steppenlaeufer: copied content from Dogs, someone else should decide where it should stay. marked article as {{stub}}</p>
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<div>{{stub}}<br />
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[[Image:Dogweapons1thumbs.jpg|thumb|300px||All the currently made weapons in Overgrowth.]]<br />
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Weapons play a major role in the fierce and violent universe of Overgrowth.<br />
Each race has its own weapon types with different abilities.<br />
This article describes the weapons introduced so far.<br />
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= Dog Weapons =<br />
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== [http://blog.wolfire.com/2009/03/dog-weapons-part-one-polearms/ Polearms] ==<br />
The polearms are longer weapons, with some sort of blade affixed to the end of a pole, to allow for greater reach. This allows for dogs to wage battles against without allowing their enemies to enter close-quarters combat, limiting the effectiveness of natural weapons such as teeth and claws.<br />
The dogs use three major types of polearm:<br />
<gallery perrow="4"><br />
Image:pole2.jpg|[[Spear]]<br />
Image:pole1.jpg|[[Glaive]]<br />
Image:pole3.jpg|[[Rabbit Catcher]]<br />
</gallery><br />
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== [http://blog.wolfire.com/2009/03/dog-weapons-part-two-blades/ Blades] ==<br />
The dogs use single-edge blades on their swords and daggers, which they use at closer range than the polearms. The blades are a strong example of the rectangular motifs used in the dog culture, and carry a distinctive, polygonal-shaped blade. As with the polearms, there are three types of bladed weapons utilized by the dogs:<br />
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<gallery perrow="4"><br />
Image:blade2.jpg|[[Small Knife]]<br />
Image:blade3.jpg|[[Standard Sword]]<br />
Image:blade1.jpg|[[Double-Handed Broadsword]]<br />
</gallery><br />
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== [http://blog.wolfire.com/2009/03/dog-weapons-part-three-the-hammer/ Warhammers] ==<br />
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The dog warhammer is a massive weapon, and must be carried in both hands. It is very cumbersome and unwieldy in battle, but still remains commonly used by the leaders of [[clan Stone]], because of its cultural and historical significance (see below). Though cumbersome, the weapon is highly effective against heavily armored or unusually tough opponents.<br />
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<gallery perrow="4"><br />
Image:hammer1.jpg|[[War Hammer|War hammer]]<br />
</gallery><br />
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[[Category:Weapons]]<br />
[[Category:Overgrowth]]</div>Steppenlaeuferhttps://wiki.wolfire.com/index.php?title=Dogs&diff=3127Dogs2011-06-21T10:47:27Z<p>Steppenlaeufer: Linked with Equipment and Weapons</p>
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<div>Dogs are capable warriors and craftsmen, and are fervently loyal to those of their clan.<br />
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==History==<br />
[[Image:Dog ruins.jpg | thumb | 300px || Ancient dog ruins]]<br />
The race of Dogs has been present on the island of Lugaru for a very long time, as some ancient dog ruins suggest.<br />
<br />
==Culture==<br />
<br />
This section will describe Dog cultural practices and common beliefs.<br />
<br />
==Politics==<br />
<br />
Description of Dog clans and political relations.<br />
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==Military==<br />
<br />
===Warfare===<br />
<br />
Description of weapons and armor and combat styles.<br />
<br />
====Weaponry====<br />
<br />
''Main article: [[Equipment and Weapons#Dog Weapons|Dog Weapons]]''<br />
<br />
[[Image:Dogweapons1thumbs.jpg|thumb|300px||All the currently made dog weapons in Overgrowth]]<br />
<br />
Dog weapons are characteristically sturdily-built, and incorporate repeated rectangular motifs. The weapons released so far can be categorized into three basic types:<br />
<br />
=====Polearms=====<br />
<br />
The polearms are longer weapons, with some sort of blade affixed to the end of a pole, to allow for greater reach. This allows for dogs to wage battles against without allowing their enemies to enter close-quarters combat, limiting the effectiveness of natural weapons such as teeth and claws.<br />
=====Blades=====<br />
<br />
The dogs use single-edge blades on their swords and daggers, which they use at closer range than the polearms. The blades are a strong example of the rectangular motifs used in the dog culture, and carry a distinctive, polygonal-shaped blade.<br />
=====Warhammers=====<br />
<br />
The dog warhammer is a massive weapon, and must be carried in both hands. It is very cumbersome and unwieldy in battle, but still remains commonly used by the leaders of [[clan Stone]], because of its cultural and historical significance (see below). Though cumbersome, the weapon is highly effective against heavily armored or unusually tough opponents.<br />
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===Famous battles===<br />
The Battle of Steel Quarry was a brief skirmish between the Dogs of clan [[Clan Stone|Stone]] and the Dogs of clan [[Clan Sword Breaker|Sword Breaker]]. Prior to the battle, the leaders of both clans, [[Tarl of clan Stone]] and [[Kaz of clan Sword Breaker]] had agreed to a duel to settle a land ownership dispute surrounding a granite quarry. Kaz had attempting to poison Tarl the night prior to duel, and so felt that Tarl would be forced to submit. However, Tarl had suspected the food he had eaten was poisoned and purged his stomach after the meal. Kaz, sure that his poisoning had succeded, waited in his camp for a messenger from Tarl telling of his inability to fight, but no messenger arrived. Having waited most of the day, Kaz was forced to rush to the duel location to meet Tarl. Having come unprepared to fight a healthy and fully equipped adversary, Kaz was forced to concede.<br />
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To seek revenge for his loss, Kaz decided to attack the Dogs of clan Stone as they came to the quarry one morning. After laying in wait among the rocks, the Sword Breakers attacked the dogs of clan Stone who had only basic tools to defend themselves with. Despite superior numbers and equipment, the mobility of the clan Stone Dogs and their familiarity with the terrain gave them the upper hand and allowed them to defeat clan Sword Breaker.<br />
<br />
==Religion==<br />
<br />
Description of Dog religious beliefs and deities.<br />
<br />
==Notable Dogs==<br />
<br />
*[[Kaz of clan Sword Breaker]]<br />
*[[Tarl of clan Stone]]<br />
*[http://blog.wolfire.com/2009/04/the-origin-of-wolfire/ Wolfie] - A legendary (and near-mythological) dog warrior of great cunning and bravery. <br />
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[[Category:Dogs]]<br />
[[Category:Overgrowth]]</div>Steppenlaeuferhttps://wiki.wolfire.com/index.php?title=War_Hammer&diff=3126War Hammer2011-06-21T10:21:38Z<p>Steppenlaeufer: </p>
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<div>[[Image:hammer1.jpg|thumb|300px||A massive war hammer]]<br />
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This two-handed war hammer is unwieldy, but can cause catastrophic damage to even the most heavily armored opponents. This is the first clan specific weapon Aubrey has made for the dogs. Even though it may not be the most practical weapon, it is very commonly used by commanders of one of the dog clans because it is important to their clan identity.<br />
<br />
[[Category:Dog Weapons]]<br />
[[Category:War Hammers]]</div>Steppenlaeuferhttps://wiki.wolfire.com/index.php?title=Category:War_Hammers&diff=3125Category:War Hammers2011-06-21T10:21:22Z<p>Steppenlaeufer: New page: Warhammers found in Overgrowth Category: Weapons</p>
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<div>Warhammers found in Overgrowth<br />
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[[Category: Weapons]]</div>Steppenlaeuferhttps://wiki.wolfire.com/index.php?title=Category:Blades&diff=3124Category:Blades2011-06-21T10:19:44Z<p>Steppenlaeufer: </p>
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<div>Blades introduced in Overgrowth<br />
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[[Category: Weapons]]</div>Steppenlaeuferhttps://wiki.wolfire.com/index.php?title=Standard_Sword&diff=3123Standard Sword2011-06-21T10:18:53Z<p>Steppenlaeufer: </p>
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<div>[[Image:blade3.jpg|thumb|300px||A standard sword]]<br />
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This sword is the standard sidearm for spear-wielding dog soldiers. The weapon is especially bulky so that it can cleave through the hafts of spears more easily.<br />
<br />
[[Category:Dog Weapons]]<br />
[[Category:Blades]]</div>Steppenlaeuferhttps://wiki.wolfire.com/index.php?title=Small_Knife&diff=3122Small Knife2011-06-21T10:18:44Z<p>Steppenlaeufer: </p>
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<div>[[Image:blade2.jpg|thumb|300px||A small knife]]<br />
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This is a standard issue knife for dogs. It is not very useful as a throwing weapon but the weight and sturdiness of the knife make it more effective against armored targets.<br />
<br />
[[Category:Dog Weapons]]<br />
[[Category:Blades]]<br />
[[Category:Knife]]</div>Steppenlaeuferhttps://wiki.wolfire.com/index.php?title=Category:Blades&diff=3121Category:Blades2011-06-21T10:18:33Z<p>Steppenlaeufer: New page: Blades introduced in Overgrowth</p>
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<div>Blades introduced in Overgrowth</div>Steppenlaeuferhttps://wiki.wolfire.com/index.php?title=Spear&diff=3120Spear2011-06-21T10:17:58Z<p>Steppenlaeufer: </p>
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<div>[[Image:pole2.jpg|thumb|300px||A spear]]<br />
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The normal dog soldier is often armed with a spear and sidearm. The spear would make an effective throwing weapon against lightly armored opponents. Dogs often fight against other dogs, and the longer weapons help keep their enemies out of biting range.<br />
<br />
[[Category:Dog Weapons]]<br />
[[Category:Polearms]]</div>Steppenlaeuferhttps://wiki.wolfire.com/index.php?title=Rabbit_Catcher&diff=3119Rabbit Catcher2011-06-21T10:17:52Z<p>Steppenlaeufer: </p>
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<div>[[Image:pole3.jpg|thumb|300px||A rabbit catcher]]<br />
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The rabbit catcher is a more unusual weapon. Although rabbits usually don't like to fight, it is not unheard of. This weapon is used to prevent rabbits from jumping over defensive fortifications or into the middle of troop formations. It's fearsome appearance is usually deterrent enough to prevent their enemies from even trying it.<br />
<br />
[[Category:Dog Weapons]]<br />
[[Category:Polearms]]</div>Steppenlaeuferhttps://wiki.wolfire.com/index.php?title=Glaive&diff=3118Glaive2011-06-21T10:17:46Z<p>Steppenlaeufer: </p>
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<div>[[Image:pole1.jpg|thumb|300px||A glaive]]<br />
<br />
The glaive is another standard armament for dog soldiers. It cannot be thrown like the [[spear]], but it makes up for it by being better at slashing attacks. The prong on the handle can be used as a handle for extra leverage or to parry incoming strikes.<br />
<br />
[[Category:Dog Weapons]]<br />
[[Category:Polearms]]</div>Steppenlaeuferhttps://wiki.wolfire.com/index.php?title=Double-Handed_Broadsword&diff=3117Double-Handed Broadsword2011-06-21T10:17:20Z<p>Steppenlaeufer: </p>
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<div>[[Image:blade1.jpg|thumb|300px||A double-handed broadsword]]<br />
<br />
This double-handed broadsword is used mostly by command units in dog war packs. This weapon is the most effective at lopping heads off of [[spear|spears]], but has a significant reach disadvantage.<br />
<br />
[[Category:Dog Weapons]]<br />
[[Category:Blades]]</div>Steppenlaeuferhttps://wiki.wolfire.com/index.php?title=Category:Polearms&diff=3116Category:Polearms2011-06-21T10:16:51Z<p>Steppenlaeufer: New page: Polearms introduced in Overgrowth Category: Weapons</p>
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<div>Polearms introduced in Overgrowth<br />
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[[Category: Weapons]]</div>Steppenlaeuferhttps://wiki.wolfire.com/index.php?title=Small_Knife&diff=3115Small Knife2011-06-21T10:15:13Z<p>Steppenlaeufer: </p>
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<div>[[Image:blade2.jpg|thumb|300px||A small knife]]<br />
<br />
This is a standard issue knife for dogs. It is not very useful as a throwing weapon but the weight and sturdiness of the knife make it more effective against armored targets.<br />
<br />
[[Category:Weapons]]<br />
[[Category:Dog Weapons]]<br />
[[Category:Blades]]<br />
[[Category:Knife]]</div>Steppenlaeuferhttps://wiki.wolfire.com/index.php?title=Equipment_and_Weapons&diff=3114Equipment and Weapons2011-06-21T09:59:07Z<p>Steppenlaeufer: </p>
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<div>[[Image:Dogweapons1thumbs.jpg|thumb|300px||All the currently made weapons in Overgrowth.]]<br />
<br />
Weapons play a major role in the fierce and violent universe of Overgrowth.<br />
<br />
= Dog Weapons =<br />
<br />
== [http://blog.wolfire.com/2009/03/dog-weapons-part-one-polearms/ Polearms] ==<br />
<br />
<gallery perrow="4"><br />
Image:pole2.jpg|[[Spear]]<br />
Image:pole1.jpg|[[Glaive]]<br />
Image:pole3.jpg|[[Rabbit Catcher]]<br />
</gallery><br />
<br />
== [http://blog.wolfire.com/2009/03/dog-weapons-part-two-blades/ Blades] ==<br />
<br />
<br />
<gallery perrow="4"><br />
Image:blade2.jpg|[[Small Knife]]<br />
Image:blade3.jpg|[[Standard Sword]]<br />
Image:blade1.jpg|[[Double-Handed Broadsword]]<br />
</gallery><br />
<br />
== [http://blog.wolfire.com/2009/03/dog-weapons-part-three-the-hammer/ Warhammers] ==<br />
<br />
<gallery perrow="4"><br />
Image:hammer1.jpg|[[War Hammer|War hammer]]<br />
</gallery><br />
<br />
[[Category:Weapons]]<br />
[[Category:Overgrowth]]</div>Steppenlaeuferhttps://wiki.wolfire.com/index.php?title=Equipment_and_Weapons&diff=3113Equipment and Weapons2011-06-21T09:56:59Z<p>Steppenlaeufer: /* Warhammers */</p>
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<div>Weapons play a major role in the fierce and violent universe of Overgrowth.<br />
<br />
= Dog Weapons =<br />
<br />
== [http://blog.wolfire.com/2009/03/dog-weapons-part-one-polearms/ Polearms] ==<br />
<br />
<gallery perrow="4"><br />
Image:pole2.jpg|[[Spear]]<br />
Image:pole1.jpg|[[Glaive]]<br />
Image:pole3.jpg|[[Rabbit Catcher]]<br />
</gallery><br />
<br />
== [http://blog.wolfire.com/2009/03/dog-weapons-part-two-blades/ Blades] ==<br />
<br />
<br />
<gallery perrow="4"><br />
Image:blade2.jpg|[[Small Knife]]<br />
Image:blade3.jpg|[[Standard Sword]]<br />
Image:blade1.jpg|[[Double-Handed Broadsword]]<br />
</gallery><br />
<br />
== [http://blog.wolfire.com/2009/03/dog-weapons-part-three-the-hammer/ Warhammers] ==<br />
<br />
<gallery perrow="4"><br />
Image:hammer1.jpg|[[War Hammer|War hammer]]<br />
</gallery><br />
<br />
== All Dog weapons ==<br />
<br />
[[Image:Dogweapons1thumbs.jpg|thumb|none| Image showing all the currently made weapons in Overgrowth.]]<br />
<br />
[[Category:Weapons]]<br />
[[Category:Overgrowth]]</div>Steppenlaeuferhttps://wiki.wolfire.com/index.php?title=Equipment_and_Weapons&diff=3112Equipment and Weapons2011-06-21T09:56:30Z<p>Steppenlaeufer: /* Warhammers */</p>
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<div>Weapons play a major role in the fierce and violent universe of Overgrowth.<br />
<br />
= Dog Weapons =<br />
<br />
== [http://blog.wolfire.com/2009/03/dog-weapons-part-one-polearms/ Polearms] ==<br />
<br />
<gallery perrow="4"><br />
Image:pole2.jpg|[[Spear]]<br />
Image:pole1.jpg|[[Glaive]]<br />
Image:pole3.jpg|[[Rabbit Catcher]]<br />
</gallery><br />
<br />
== [http://blog.wolfire.com/2009/03/dog-weapons-part-two-blades/ Blades] ==<br />
<br />
<br />
<gallery perrow="4"><br />
Image:blade2.jpg|[[Small Knife]]<br />
Image:blade3.jpg|[[Standard Sword]]<br />
Image:blade1.jpg|[[Double-Handed Broadsword]]<br />
</gallery><br />
<br />
== [http://blog.wolfire.com/2009/03/dog-weapons-part-three-the-hammer/ Warhammers] ==<br />
<br />
<gallery perrow="4"><br />
Image:hammer1.jpg|[[War hammer]]<br />
</gallery><br />
<br />
== All Dog weapons ==<br />
<br />
[[Image:Dogweapons1thumbs.jpg|thumb|none| Image showing all the currently made weapons in Overgrowth.]]<br />
<br />
[[Category:Weapons]]<br />
[[Category:Overgrowth]]</div>Steppenlaeuferhttps://wiki.wolfire.com/index.php?title=War_Hammer&diff=3111War Hammer2011-06-21T09:55:18Z<p>Steppenlaeufer: New page: A massive war hammer This two-handed war hammer is unwieldy, but can cause catastrophic damage to even the most heavily armored opponents. This is the f...</p>
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<div>[[Image:hammer1.jpg|thumb|300px||A massive war hammer]]<br />
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This two-handed war hammer is unwieldy, but can cause catastrophic damage to even the most heavily armored opponents. This is the first clan specific weapon Aubrey has made for the dogs. Even though it may not be the most practical weapon, it is very commonly used by commanders of one of the dog clans because it is important to their clan identity.<br />
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[[Category:Weapons]]<br />
[[Category:Dog Weapons]]<br />
[[Category:War Hammers]]</div>Steppenlaeuferhttps://wiki.wolfire.com/index.php?title=Equipment_and_Weapons&diff=3110Equipment and Weapons2011-06-21T09:44:12Z<p>Steppenlaeufer: /* Blades */</p>
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<div>Weapons play a major role in the fierce and violent universe of Overgrowth.<br />
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= Dog Weapons =<br />
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== [http://blog.wolfire.com/2009/03/dog-weapons-part-one-polearms/ Polearms] ==<br />
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<gallery perrow="4"><br />
Image:pole2.jpg|[[Spear]]<br />
Image:pole1.jpg|[[Glaive]]<br />
Image:pole3.jpg|[[Rabbit Catcher]]<br />
</gallery><br />
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== [http://blog.wolfire.com/2009/03/dog-weapons-part-two-blades/ Blades] ==<br />
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<gallery perrow="4"><br />
Image:blade2.jpg|[[Small Knife]]<br />
Image:blade3.jpg|[[Standard Sword]]<br />
Image:blade1.jpg|[[Double-Handed Broadsword]]<br />
</gallery><br />
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== [http://blog.wolfire.com/2009/03/dog-weapons-part-three-the-hammer/ Warhammers] ==<br />
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=== Massive War hammer ===<br />
[[Image:hammer1.jpg|thumb|none| This two-handed war hammer is unwieldy, but can cause catastrophic damage to even the most heavily armored opponents. This is the first clan specific weapon Aubrey has made for the dogs. Even though it may not be the most practical weapon, it is very commonly used by commanders of one of the dog clans because it is important to their clan identity.]]<br />
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== All Dog weapons ==<br />
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[[Image:Dogweapons1thumbs.jpg|thumb|none| Image showing all the currently made weapons in Overgrowth.]]<br />
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[[Category:Weapons]]<br />
[[Category:Overgrowth]]</div>Steppenlaeuferhttps://wiki.wolfire.com/index.php?title=Double-Handed_Broadsword&diff=3109Double-Handed Broadsword2011-06-21T09:43:03Z<p>Steppenlaeufer: New page: A double-handed broadsword This double-handed broadsword is used mostly by command units in dog war packs. This weapon is the most effective at lopping h...</p>
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<div>[[Image:blade1.jpg|thumb|300px||A double-handed broadsword]]<br />
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This double-handed broadsword is used mostly by command units in dog war packs. This weapon is the most effective at lopping heads off of [[spear|spears]], but has a significant reach disadvantage.<br />
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[[Category:Weapons]]<br />
[[Category:Dog Weapons]]<br />
[[Category:Blades]]</div>Steppenlaeuferhttps://wiki.wolfire.com/index.php?title=Standard_Sword&diff=3108Standard Sword2011-06-21T09:41:16Z<p>Steppenlaeufer: woops</p>
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<div>[[Image:blade3.jpg|thumb|300px||A standard sword]]<br />
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This sword is the standard sidearm for spear-wielding dog soldiers. The weapon is especially bulky so that it can cleave through the hafts of spears more easily.<br />
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[[Category:Weapons]]<br />
[[Category:Dog Weapons]]<br />
[[Category:Blades]]</div>Steppenlaeuferhttps://wiki.wolfire.com/index.php?title=Standard_Sword&diff=3107Standard Sword2011-06-21T09:41:00Z<p>Steppenlaeufer: New page: A standard sword This sword is the standard sidearm for spear-wielding dog soldiers. The weapon is especially bulky so that it can cleave through the haft...</p>
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<div>[[Image:pole3.jpg|thumb|300px||A standard sword]]<br />
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This sword is the standard sidearm for spear-wielding dog soldiers. The weapon is especially bulky so that it can cleave through the hafts of spears more easily.<br />
<br />
[[Category:Weapons]]<br />
[[Category:Dog Weapons]]<br />
[[Category:Blades]]</div>Steppenlaeuferhttps://wiki.wolfire.com/index.php?title=Small_Knife&diff=3106Small Knife2011-06-21T09:40:07Z<p>Steppenlaeufer: New page: A small knife This is a standard issue knife for dogs. It is not very useful as a throwing weapon but the weight and sturdiness of the knife make it more...</p>
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<div>[[Image:blade2.jpg|thumb|300px||A small knife]]<br />
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This is a standard issue knife for dogs. It is not very useful as a throwing weapon but the weight and sturdiness of the knife make it more effective against armored targets.<br />
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[[Category:Weapons]]<br />
[[Category:Dog Weapons]]<br />
[[Category:Blades]]</div>Steppenlaeuferhttps://wiki.wolfire.com/index.php?title=Equipment_and_Weapons&diff=3105Equipment and Weapons2011-06-21T09:31:23Z<p>Steppenlaeufer: /* Polearms */ moved Polearms in their own subpages</p>
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<div>Weapons play a major role in the fierce and violent universe of Overgrowth.<br />
<br />
= Dog Weapons =<br />
<br />
== [http://blog.wolfire.com/2009/03/dog-weapons-part-one-polearms/ Polearms] ==<br />
<br />
<gallery perrow="4"><br />
Image:pole2.jpg|[[Spear]]<br />
Image:pole1.jpg|[[Glaive]]<br />
Image:pole3.jpg|[[Rabbit Catcher]]<br />
</gallery><br />
<br />
== [http://blog.wolfire.com/2009/03/dog-weapons-part-two-blades/ Blades] ==<br />
<br />
=== Small Knife ===<br />
[[Image:blade2.jpg|thumb|none| This is a standard issue knife for dogs. It is not very useful as a throwing weapon but the weight and sturdiness of the knife make it more effective against armored targets.]]<br />
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=== Standard Sword ===<br />
[[Image:blade3.jpg|thumb|none| This sword is the standard sidearm for spear-wielding dog soldiers. The weapon is especially bulky so that it can cleave through the hafts of spears more easily.]]<br />
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=== Double-Handed Broadsword ===<br />
[[Image:blade1.jpg|thumb|none| This double-handed broadsword is used mostly by command units in dog war packs. This weapon is the most effective at lopping heads off of spears, but has a significant reach disadvantage.]]<br />
<br />
== [http://blog.wolfire.com/2009/03/dog-weapons-part-three-the-hammer/ Warhammers] ==<br />
<br />
=== Massive War hammer ===<br />
[[Image:hammer1.jpg|thumb|none| This two-handed war hammer is unwieldy, but can cause catastrophic damage to even the most heavily armored opponents. This is the first clan specific weapon Aubrey has made for the dogs. Even though it may not be the most practical weapon, it is very commonly used by commanders of one of the dog clans because it is important to their clan identity.]]<br />
<br />
== All Dog weapons ==<br />
<br />
[[Image:Dogweapons1thumbs.jpg|thumb|none| Image showing all the currently made weapons in Overgrowth.]]<br />
<br />
[[Category:Weapons]]<br />
[[Category:Overgrowth]]</div>Steppenlaeuferhttps://wiki.wolfire.com/index.php?title=Rabbit_Catcher&diff=3104Rabbit Catcher2011-06-21T09:28:41Z<p>Steppenlaeufer: categorization and giving weapons its own page</p>
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<div>[[Image:pole3.jpg|thumb|300px||A rabbit catcher]]<br />
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The rabbit catcher is a more unusual weapon. Although rabbits usually don't like to fight, it is not unheard of. This weapon is used to prevent rabbits from jumping over defensive fortifications or into the middle of troop formations. It's fearsome appearance is usually deterrent enough to prevent their enemies from even trying it.<br />
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[[Category:Weapons]]<br />
[[Category:Dog Weapons]]<br />
[[Category:Polearms]]</div>Steppenlaeuferhttps://wiki.wolfire.com/index.php?title=Glaive&diff=3103Glaive2011-06-21T09:27:15Z<p>Steppenlaeufer: </p>
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<div>[[Image:pole1.jpg|thumb|300px||A glaive]]<br />
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The glaive is another standard armament for dog soldiers. It cannot be thrown like the [[spear]], but it makes up for it by being better at slashing attacks. The prong on the handle can be used as a handle for extra leverage or to parry incoming strikes.<br />
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[[Category:Weapons]]<br />
[[Category:Dog Weapons]]<br />
[[Category:Polearms]]</div>Steppenlaeuferhttps://wiki.wolfire.com/index.php?title=Equipment_and_Weapons&diff=3102Equipment and Weapons2011-06-21T09:26:10Z<p>Steppenlaeufer: /* Polearms */</p>
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<div>Weapons play a major role in the fierce and violent universe of Overgrowth.<br />
<br />
= Dog Weapons =<br />
<br />
== [http://blog.wolfire.com/2009/03/dog-weapons-part-one-polearms/ Polearms] ==<br />
<br />
=== [[Spear]] ===<br />
[[Image:pole2.jpg|thumb|none| The normal dog soldier is often armed with a spear and sidearm. The spear would make an effective throwing weapon against lightly armored opponents. Dogs often fight against other dogs, and the longer weapons help keep their enemies out of biting range.]]<br />
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=== [[Glaive]] ===<br />
[[Image:pole1.jpg|thumb|none| The glaive is another standard armament for dog soldiers. It cannot be thrown like the spear, but it makes up for it by being better at slashing attacks. The prong on the handle can be used as a handle for extra leverage or to parry incoming strikes.]]<br />
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=== [[Rabbit Catcher]] ===<br />
[[Image:pole3.jpg|thumb|none| The rabbit catcher is a more unusual weapon. Although rabbits usually don't like to fight, it is not unheard of. This weapon is used to prevent rabbits from jumping over defensive fortifications or into the middle of troop formations. It's fearsome appearance is usually deterrent enough to prevent their enemies from even trying it.]]<br />
<br />
== [http://blog.wolfire.com/2009/03/dog-weapons-part-two-blades/ Blades] ==<br />
<br />
=== Small Knife ===<br />
[[Image:blade2.jpg|thumb|none| This is a standard issue knife for dogs. It is not very useful as a throwing weapon but the weight and sturdiness of the knife make it more effective against armored targets.]]<br />
<br />
=== Standard Sword ===<br />
[[Image:blade3.jpg|thumb|none| This sword is the standard sidearm for spear-wielding dog soldiers. The weapon is especially bulky so that it can cleave through the hafts of spears more easily.]]<br />
<br />
=== Double-Handed Broadsword ===<br />
[[Image:blade1.jpg|thumb|none| This double-handed broadsword is used mostly by command units in dog war packs. This weapon is the most effective at lopping heads off of spears, but has a significant reach disadvantage.]]<br />
<br />
== [http://blog.wolfire.com/2009/03/dog-weapons-part-three-the-hammer/ Warhammers] ==<br />
<br />
=== Massive War hammer ===<br />
[[Image:hammer1.jpg|thumb|none| This two-handed war hammer is unwieldy, but can cause catastrophic damage to even the most heavily armored opponents. This is the first clan specific weapon Aubrey has made for the dogs. Even though it may not be the most practical weapon, it is very commonly used by commanders of one of the dog clans because it is important to their clan identity.]]<br />
<br />
== All Dog weapons ==<br />
<br />
[[Image:Dogweapons1thumbs.jpg|thumb|none| Image showing all the currently made weapons in Overgrowth.]]<br />
<br />
[[Category:Weapons]]<br />
[[Category:Overgrowth]]</div>Steppenlaeuferhttps://wiki.wolfire.com/index.php?title=Glaive&diff=3101Glaive2011-06-21T09:25:48Z<p>Steppenlaeufer: New page: A spear The glaive is another standard armament for dog soldiers. It cannot be thrown like the spear, but it makes up for it by being better at slashi...</p>
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<div>[[Image:pole1.jpg|thumb|300px||A spear]]<br />
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The glaive is another standard armament for dog soldiers. It cannot be thrown like the [[spear]], but it makes up for it by being better at slashing attacks. The prong on the handle can be used as a handle for extra leverage or to parry incoming strikes.<br />
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[[Category:Weapons]]<br />
[[Category:Dog Weapons]]<br />
[[Category:Polearms]]</div>Steppenlaeuferhttps://wiki.wolfire.com/index.php?title=Spear&diff=3100Spear2011-06-21T09:23:35Z<p>Steppenlaeufer: New page: A spear The normal dog soldier is often armed with a spear and sidearm. The spear would make an effective throwing weapon against lightly armored opponent...</p>
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<div>[[Image:pole2.jpg|thumb|300px||A spear]]<br />
<br />
The normal dog soldier is often armed with a spear and sidearm. The spear would make an effective throwing weapon against lightly armored opponents. Dogs often fight against other dogs, and the longer weapons help keep their enemies out of biting range.<br />
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[[Category:Weapons]]<br />
[[Category:Dog Weapons]]<br />
[[Category:Polearms]]</div>Steppenlaeufer