Talk:Equipment and Weapons

Weapons (anything lower than this point should be in a weapons page not a sub category. If you have a crucial detail for that weapon and there is no page, don't think you have to make an entirely new page. Add your words to the file's own page for example look at the staff. )

So who is to decide if there should be a weapon page or not? I don't agree with the last sentence because of two reasons:

• 1. look at every single (game related) Wiki that is mentioned in Wolfire Wiki Editing Standards#Useful Examples - Every weapon has its own page there:
  • http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Weapons
  • http://www.wowwiki.com/Weapons
  • http://marvel.wikia.com/Category:Weapons
  • http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Weapons
  • http://bioshock.wikia.com/wiki/BioShock_Weapons
  • http://witcher.wikia.com/wiki/Category:The_Witcher_2_weapons (not on the list but also a very good wiki)

The reason why its better to have a page for every weapon is because its simply easier to manage them on their own page then to track every single occurence on collection pages like Equipment_and_Weapons or Dogs#Weaponry (which I have combined previously because they contained duplicates of the same information)

• 2. Image pages should be used to describe the image itself and only give a short description about its content. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Image_page

--Steppenlaeufer 08:13, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

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Ok, but in my defense, what I'm doing is pretty much like bioware's doing (we could argue that the staff (I found an unused picture only about staves)):

• http://bioshock.wikia.com/wiki/File%3ASpecialCD.jpg
• http://bioshock.wikia.com/wiki/Category:BioShock_Weapons.

But COD also does a cross between:

• http://medalofhonor.wikia.com/wiki/File:C96_Mauser.PNG (they do what you say, but the files are named exactly what the weapon is ie we need to make sure that rabbit catcher a ,b ,c naming convention is used if we add no description)
• http://medalofhonor.wikia.com/wiki/M1917_revolver
• http://medalofhonor.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Revolvers
• http://medalofhonor.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Handguns
• http://medalofhonor.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Weapons

Either way, after we decide what to do with the weapons category, we need templates like:

• http://bioshock.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Weapons
• http://medalofhonor.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Gunbox
• http://medalofhonor.wikia.com/wiki/Template:MOHA_Weapons

Thanks very much for helping with the editing standards. You're right about "So who is to decide if there should be a weapon page or not?". The only way to decide is debate and argue for your most liked example and then decide which one most people think is best. I'm always happy to go through one by one and edit my mistakes for the better.

--Conner36 13:33, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

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I agree that pictures should have some sort of meta-data as shown in [1], its easier to find page-related pictures if they have a good description. I didn't mean to leave image pages blank like shown in [2], but to only provide picture related content on the picture page and not article/page content. In my opinion most people using a wiki system (including myself) don't read through the picture-page of a posted picture.

A naming convention for pictures could be useful but is pretty hard to establish for pictures of something that can't be described with one word, a good description in the metadata is probably superior.

I also agree on the template for the weapons category (if we decide to keep the category), this would be very useful and also nice looking.

Thanks for your quick reply, greetings from Austria --Steppenlaeufer 15:06, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

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Maybe we should add subcategories from this list (from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_melee_weapons):

• Blunt weapons
• Chain weapons
• Spears
• Pole weapons
• Knives
• Swords and fencing
• Axes
• Glove Weapons
• Improvised Weapons
• Miscellaneous weapons

Which idea do you like, no page for "spears" but a template page (saves on editing for the main weapons page) for each specific spear? or is it better to have a page for each weapon and the weapons template instead of a main weapons page?

I'm more for a weapons template and no main page.

Either way we need to come up with a system that can handle the future weapons. The tricky thing is making a template or page to handle different races and groups within the races with their own specific weapons in their own categories. All while being easy to navigate. Things may get ugly pretty fast.

--Conner36 15:39, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

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Weapons template without main page sounds nice. Less duplicates :)

I'm still searching for a nice template for multiple races/factions. I found one solution but I wont say its the best: [3] If you aren't familiar with CnC titles: it was pretty common that the base units of every faction where the same. Their solution was to create a template per faction/race and show both templates on units owned by both factions. Examples: The minigunner[4] can be bought/produced from both factions, while the flamethrower[5] can only be produced if you are NOD.

--Steppenlaeufer 18:29, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

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Those are cool templates. I like the http://cnc.wikia.com/wiki/Template:UnitBox very much. I think that I will be suited very well for characters.

Ok, I think I found a good template solution to merge with the unit boxes using:

• http://wiki.teamliquid.net:80/starcraft/Portal:StarCraft
• http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:IM_clients
• http://wiki.teamliquid.net:80/starcraft/Buildings

We can use the templates in the starcraft wiki to separate by a race per tab (cat, dog, rabbit, rat , wolf) and have the contents by factions. If we can use the 'Template:IM_clients' or like the starcraft buildings to show weapons by race in a weapons tab that would be cool.

Come to think of it I like the tabs idea. Do you think it's worth it to use it in more places?

--Conner36 22:21, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

{{Tab1}}
{{Tab2}}
{{Tabs}}
{{TabsBottom}}
{{TabsHeader}}
{{TabsTop}}
{{Box-header}}

-- Conner36 14:40, 23 June 2011 (UTC)

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These tabs look really quite useful. We could also use them (for instance) to destinquish between the different Wolfire games, but there are definitly many uses for it. If it doesnt work out, we can still remove it afterwards.

Btw. - is it just on my operating system or is the navigation menu kind of broken for long articles? (i have to scroll all the way down to the bottom to reach it. In contrast the Wolfire logo is still left top corner.) --Steppenlaeufer 17:53, 23 June 2011 (UTC)

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Apparently one of the templates I in my previous post made that happen... it could be useful to make the navigation menu stay visible it I could figure out which template was the cause. So far I tried each one on its own, but no luck. -- Conner36 18:38, 23 June 2011 (UTC)

Added Content

Hey guys I added an Alpha Stage page on the front page that links to previous alpha builds. I also Linked the editor controls from the control reference page into the player control page. I know this is a temporary fix to the duplicate problem but it does help a lot. I will continue to help out here so let me know of anything that needs doing. -- joshking518

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Colors

We need to come up with a basic color scheme for the wiki. -- Conner36 21:14, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

Assuming direct control

Hi, the last discussion on this page is from 2012 and the page itself hasn't been updated since March so I'm taking over and updating it for a201. --Crunchepillar 05:29, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

I have completely reworked this page to have correct and up-to-date information. I will be adding images in the future, but for now I just spent way too long doing this, so the page will have to do without. --Crunchepillar 08:45, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

I was able to get cat scabbards into the game without it crashing after I tracked the issue down to a missing animation. Its technically in the game but when held it floats off the hand, though it functions properly as a sheath for the Rapier. I'm wondering if I should add this to the page or not. --Crunchepillar 09:40, 25 September 2013 (UTC)